Separated from brothers and sisters. Not quite the way you would expect someone to describe looking in the face of hate-filled neo-Nazis. But, that is what a day of reflection does to you.

Don’t misunderstand, my friend Jeffrey C. Pugh still burned with righteous indignation as he replayed the images of Friday and Saturday past in Charlottesville. Committed to non-violence, Pugh admitted to thinking he wished he had a club and for one moment could use it. But, he didn’t.

But, he didn’t.

Sunday afternoon I was invited to join a conversation to hear the firsthand account from someone standing in the Clergy Line in Charlottesville. I did not need curiosity as motivation. Instead, as a pastor, I wanted to listen for cues for what else we may do to combat the cancer of racism that shows up in White Supremacy, Alt-right, and other neo-Nazi hate groups.

After nearly every incident in recent memory where racism rears its ugly head, we have spoken. And spoken. And spoken.

There must be more.

Take a listen as see what it means to wrestle with the tensions that arise in the face of evil.

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